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Law is Death

~~~~~LAW IS DEATH ~~~~~~

Please listen to what the WORD is saying; don’t let your preconceived thoughts cause you to see something that is NOT there.

Go back and READ 11Cor. 3:7–But if the ministration of DEATH, written and engraven in STONES, (those two tablets Moses had; which God wrote on with his fingers) (but it did not say He wrote his Word there; not so! NO! He said He wrote the ministration of DEATH on those stones).

 Everyone, you need to stop and READ THIS.

v7–But if the ministration of DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVEN in STONES was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away.

Look at it ——– read it!!!!!!!! What did it say was written on those stones?????? The ministration of DEATH.

Now I ask you,  everyone  who may read this —— IF JESUS SAID MY WORDS ARE LIFE ———- HOW IN THIS WORLD ARE THEY WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THOSE STONES??????????? HUH???????? DID NOT HE SAY THIS WAS DEATH WRITTEN ON THOSE STONES??????? HOW THEN COULD IT HAVE BEEN HIS WORD???????

It was the ministration of the LAW—– that was death—– that is the letter—— that is what kills— that is what was written on stones—— that was Moses law. That is what Paul is speaking of in Romans 7- when he said v9—For I was ALIVE without —————- he said I was ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW

You law keepers, read this: —— v9–I WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW ONCE: BUT WHEN THE COMMANDMENT (LAW) CAME, SIN REVIVED, AND I (WHAT??????????)

AND I DIED.

There you have it—- man was ALIVE without the LAW—— why??????? Because the law (letter) KILLS. So he was dead. If you go back under that law willfully, you, too, will be DEAD. It was the ministration of DEATH — THE LETTER KILLS———— THE LAW KILLS—— MAN WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW———–THE LAW CAME——–SIN REVIVED——–MAN DIED.

How could you miss this????????????????????????????

Romans: 7–v4—–wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become DEAD to the law by the body of Christ; (see, that the body; or the true church makes us dead to that law????  How then could you be in that body, and still be married to that law?   can’t be )– that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the DEAD (NO LONGER UNDER THAT LAW)— that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

v5–For when we were in the FLESH (this does not mean when we were in the Word)_______ It could not mean that!!!!!!! (nor does it mean when we were in our body;  for we are always in our body)(it means where we were in the law)—-the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

Now this very clearly shows that when mankind was under that law, the motions of sins, which were by the law; (hear that,  it was BY  THE LAW)–it brought forth fruit unto   DEATH – NOT LIFE.  So that law was  DEATH.

THE WORD IS LIFE.  WHAT A CONTRAST!!!!!!!!

Romans 8:9—But ye are NOT in the FLESH, but in the SPIRIT, is so be that the SPIRIT of God dwell in you.

Now, if the Spirit of God (Holy Ghost) is in me I am NOT in the FLESH———— so does this mean Iam not in my BODY?????????????????

Of course not!!!!!!!!!

How could it mean that????????? So then, we have clearly established right here that the FLESH does NOT mean the HUMAN BODY.

Now back to cp. 7:10– And the COMMANDMENT, (law) which was ordained to life, I found to be unto DEATH.

So the law brought DEATH ————- SO HOW COULD IT BE THE WORD???????????

The words are LIFE. So how could they bring DEATH????? Could not be so.

v11–For sin, taking occasion by the COMMANDMENT, deceived me (see,SIN by the law deceived him = man kind)—and by it ( the law)—– SLEW ME.

There you have it!!!!! The law was death to mankind. So it could not be the WORD. The WORD IS LIFE.

IF IT IS LIFE——– HOW COULD IT KILL??????????? IF IT KILLS US HOW THEN IS IT LIFE???????????????

Paul is plainly saying that mankind, before the LAW was alive; but after they were placed under LAW,,,,, they (mankind) died = were DEAD.

So he is asking Who will or can deliver me from this law// WHO CAN DELIVER ME FROM THE BODY OF THIS DEATH???

What did he mean???????? He meant who can deliver us from that body of the LAW, which was DEATH. That ‘body’ means that group of people with Moses  under the law.  Paul was in that group, or body, before he came to Jesus.  Jesus, His words set Paul free from that body of death.

Jesus Christ did. How???????? By giving us the Word of God; by giving us GRACE.

Joie,

Jesus Is Building His Church

[here is a very good message, I am bringing over from our old MSN; Multiply]
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Jesus is building His Church
Oct 21, ’04 3:26 AM

by joie for everyone

Jesus Is Building His Church! 

by Chip Brogden
 



“…upon this Rock, I will build My Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Matthew 16:18b).” 

What is the “move” of God? What is God doing today? What is God saying to the Church? Here’s what is happening: Jesus is building His Church. There is no “new” thing to be seen, said, or done: Jesus the Rock is building His Church upon the foundation of Himself. He is faithfully gathering the living stones together and is assembling them into a beautiful structure of gold, silver, and precious stones (I Peter 2:4-9; I Corinthians 3:9-17). 

There is nothing wrong with the Church! That is, there is nothing wrong with the Church that Jesus is building, though there is much to be desired among those who are following their own building programs and blueprints, and calling it “church”. Jesus is assembling the saints together into a spiritual house. The problem is that some things we have come to believe to be “church” are not necessarily the Church. Although there is nothing wrong with the Church, everything that is called “Church” is not the “Church”. So what is the Church? 

Let us look at this statement: “I will build My Church.” The first thing that strikes us about this thing called “Church” is simply that it is that which Jesus is building upon the foundation of Himself. More specifically, the word “church” is “ecclesia”, the called-out assembly. It consists of those to whom God has chosen to reveal His Son. This revelation of who we are in Christ and who Christ is in us is the key. Without this firm foundation we cannot know, understand or experience being part of the Church. Quite frankly, our religious head knowledge or credal affirmation is of virtually no significance. Even the repeating of the so-called “Sinner’s Prayer” means nothing apart from the revelation of Jesus Christ. May God give us a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Christ (Ephesians 1:17-23). Then, our prayer and confession will be based on Spirit and Truth revelation, not flesh and blood, second or third generation “knowing” (Matthew 16:17). 

The Church is not built upon the individual Peter, but upon those who have been given revelation. Jesus builds His Church through revelation to individuals, the “whosoevers”. What revelation? The revelation of Himself. This revelation is sufficient to secure us as members of the Church that Jesus is building. When we understand that revelation is the only thing which matters we will cease trying to grow the Church or gain members through better preaching, musical entertainment, handsome facilities, demographic studies, and savvy marketing techniques. Instead, we will simply come to rely upon revelation and trust the Father to reveal the Son through the Spirit Who brings illumination to our heart. We are the Temple of God, a habitation for Himself, and this Church grows as a living thing (Ephesians 2:20-22). 

Jesus is not building a denomination or founding a movement. The Church is not a denomination, but neither is it a non-denomination. It is not a steeple-house or institutional church, but neither is it a house church. Stated simply, the Church is a spiritual house of living stones, invisible to the naked eye, but clearly seen and known in Spirit. It is not an organization, but an organism. Who are its members? Those who have the revelation of Jesus Christ. Where are these members to be found? They are scattered in all directions, both inside and outside of Organized Religion. 

Keith Green once said, “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald’s makes you a hamburger.” How true this statement has proved to be through the years. But we hasten to say that going to a house church won’t make you a Christian either. We thank God for the saints which are meeting in homes and rediscovering what it means to gather together in simplicity apart from the steeple-house, paid clergy, and denominationalism. Yet, Jesus did not say, “I will build My HOUSE church.” Since the Church is comprised of individuals who have the revelation of Jesus Christ, how or where they meet together is of little consequence. In Jerusalem, or in this mountain? Neither, says the Lord (John 4:20-24). Where we gather doesn’t matter to the Lord, but WHY we gather is of extreme importance to Him. If it is due to the revelation of Jesus Christ, we will worship in Spirit and Truth because the revelation of Jesus Christ draws us together. Why? Because our testimony is other-worldly, peculiar, spiritual. We are the called-out assembly, the ecclesia of Jesus. We are His particular treasure. 

What we have, both within Organized Religion and within the house church “movement”, is a mixture of people. Some of them have the revelation of Jesus Christ, and some do not. We affirm that this revelation is enough to establish the Church, regardless of the outward appearances. Where this revelation exists, THERE is the foundation of the Church that Jesus is building. Since it is an inward revelation, a spiritual seeing and entering into, we cannot classify everyone as being the Church merely because they are within a system of Organized Religion, or even if they have come out of a system. Nor can we include or disqualify them because of where or how they meet. The meeting together is only a small part of the total picture. The question is not whether we are in or out of a human system, or how we meet, or what doctrine we lay emphasis on. The question is, have we seen the Lord? Do we have the revelation of Jesus Christ? We may be correct in outward appearance but have no inward revelation. Hence, not all who say, “Lord! Lord!” will enter the Kingdom of God (Matthew 7:21-23). Similarly, we may be politically or spiritually incorrect and offensive outwardly speaking, that is, according to what man values and esteems as good, acceptable, moral, and religious; yet the revelation of Christ is sufficient to bring us into the Kingdom with or without the support and approval of men, even the most spiritual and holy men. 

“I will build My Church.” We maintain that the Church exists where individuals have the revelation of Jesus Christ: for when this revelation takes hold of a person, Jesus Christ will have the preeminence in all things (Colossians 1:12-19). It is not enough to tell people, “Jesus is the Head of the Church.” We cannot make Him the Head while gathered together and then expect Him to remain in the background while we live out our lives individually. Either He is Lord OF all, or He isn’t Lord AT all. When we see Him seated in heavenly places we will gladly and joyfully allow Him to be the Head over all things, not only in the Church, but in our marriage, family, and work. We will at once see that the Church does not belong to us. We will discern that hitherto we have viewed “church” as something that we must attend, build, or grow. With the knowledge that the Church does not belong to us we will relinquish our claims to it and begin to co-labor together with the Lord (I Corinthians 3:9). Then, it is a natural thing to give up our titles and positions and merely concentrate on building one another up in love. To give up title and position within a group that has no revelation of Christ is to invite chaos. This is why man feels the need to have some organization and established leadership among the saints, running the steeple-house much like a business with mission statements and top-heavy organizational charts, paving a one-way street of submission to some earthly head – because there is no vision of Christ. It is not more organization or leadership training that we need. We only need more revelation, and no man can give us revelation. It is the gift of God. Once obtained, we will with much rejoicing and relief fall into place below One Head and allow Christ to have the preeminence. “The Lord is my Pastor: I shall not lack (Psalms 23:1).” 

Since it is the Lord’s Church, and no man’s, and since we are the sheep of His pasture, not man’s, we will stop referring to “Pastor Smith’s church” and “Brother John’s congregation”. The pastor is not the head of the Church. But then, neither is the teacher, evangelist, prophet, or apostle. Apostles do not build the Church: Jesus builds the Church, for it is His Church. All anyone can do is co-labor with Him. Anything done apart from Him will fall apart, for there is no other foundation but what has been laid, and that foundation is Christ (I Corinthians 3:11). If the foundation is faulty, it matters not one whit how beautiful the structure is. The apostles and prophets lay the foundation of the Church, which is the revelation of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:20), but it is still based upon a revelation that no man can give! The Spirit of Jesus must make Himself known in you (Galatians 1:11-18). Then others will build upon that foundation, which is your personal revelation of Christ in you and you in Christ. But no one at any time may lay claim to the Church, or any particular fellowship, as his or her own. The Church does not belong to a denominational office, church board, circle of elders, founding apostle, or individual pastor. At least, not the Church that Jesus is building. 

How do we know if a particular work is the true building of God, part of the genuine Church? All we have to do is see who has the preeminence there. If an apostle or pastor is considered the spiritual head then Christ does not have the preeminence (3 John 9). If the elected deacons are in charge then Christ does not have the preeminence. We may give Him lip service and acknowledge with our mouth that it is His Church, but apart from revelation these are empty words. When the moment of truth comes man will always seize control, demonstrating that Christ does not have the preeminence there, and indeed, probably never had it to begin with. 

How then do we know who has the preeminence? We need only look to see who gets the credit for the work. Men talk about “this great denomination” and glory in the works of their hands. Of course, with their lips they draw near to God, but their heart is far from Him. They are only trying to build a name to themselves and reach the heavens. The end result is confusion and vain babbling (Genesis 11:1-9). They are not co-laboring with Christ in the building of His Church, they are asking Christ to co-labor with THEM in the building of THEIR church. “We have done many mighty works in Your Name! Behold what manner of stones and buildings these are (Mark 13:1)!” And surely, great things have been accomplished, insofar as organization, wealth, property, and numbers are concerned. “But Jesus said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God (Luke 16:15).” If Jesus is building His Church as His own possession, then we cannot take the credit for it. We can only marvel at what He does and bow our heads in humble gratitude for allowing us to be a part of it. 

What shall we do about Organized Religion? What shall we do about those who claim the Church as their own, who intend to build a name to themselves? What shall we do about the false religious system? We will do nothing at all; for, those structures not built upon the Foundation of Jesus Christ will fall of their own accord (I Corinthians 3:12-17; Matthew 7:24-27). How could it be otherwise? The only safe place to be is within the Church that Jesus is building. Besides, if we attempt to bring down the huge idol of Organized Religion we may well crush ourselves and others in the attempt. 

What is the Spirit of Antichrist? It is that religious thing that makes war against Jesus and the Church that He is building. The Spirit of Antichrist is already gone out in to the world (I John 2:18) and has sown tares among the wheat. Indeed, in the last days the Spirit of Antichrist will dominate and rule the world system, attempting to blot out the true Church. Outwardly speaking it appears to be succeeding. Nevertheless, the Church that Jesus is building cannot be overcome by the gates of hell. Since it is built upon the revelation of Jesus Christ, nothing cannot stop it. Why? A man will not die for a tradition or a doctrine. But he will gladly lay down his life for the revelation of Jesus Christ. He cannot be disobedient to the heavenly vision (Acts 20:24; 26:19). He has found his Life (Christ) by giving up his life. 

Yes, this world system, including man’s religious systems, is passing away: make no mistake (I John 2:15-17). The nations will be judged and will pass through the fire (Psalms 2). The earth will decay and finally dissolve altogether, consumed in the fire; the heaven’s will melt with a fervent heat (II Peter 3:7-14). The outward things are fading, perishing, evolving downward in a state of entropy. Look around you, saint of God. See the steeple-house? It will not remain for long. See the cathedral? It too shall pass. See the oceans? One day they will be no more. Look at the mountains – they will all be removed. See the cities? They will be destroyed. Heaven and earth will pass away. 

What is my point? Simply this: the Church that Jesus is building will be the only thing which remains. The visible will make way for the invisible, the temporal will give way to the eternal, mortal will put on immortality (I Corinthians 15). A new heavens and a new earth will be made and the New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ, the Church, will be completed (Revelation 21). We are that Building of God, built upon the revelatory foundation of Jesus brought by the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the Chief Cornerstone (Ephesians 2:20). We are the Temple of God, therefore we need no earthly temple, we seek no earthly kingdom, and we expect no earthly reward (I Corinthians 3:16,17). We look for a City whose Builder and Maker is God, and we are that City (Hebrews 11:10). Jesus is building His church! 

Born

Jesus told Nicodemus you must be born again to see the kingdom of God. WHAT???/ BORN AGAIN! CAN A MAN ENTER THE SECOND TIME INTO HIS MOTHER’S WOMB AND BE BORN????

See, that natural mind went to the natural interpretation and that is always WRONG.

Job is Jesus here teaching this same message. How can you enter again into your mother’s womb and be born again?
Naked came I out of my Mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither.
He is clearly saying I will return to my mother’s womb. How?

The answer is here in a great revelation that God gave to me when I was writing on the birthday of Jesus from Jeremiah 20. And I will say boldly, no one on earth could have gotten such a great revelation except God gave it.

It will make this message very long, but I do not mind that a bit. This is necessary to show the truth and glory of entering again into the mother’s womb. I took this which I had already written in my message on Jer. 20:

Jer 20:14 Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed. (You must realize that this is Jesus speaking here, in prophecy).

Jesus is praising God for deliverance in verse 13. In verse 14 Jesus is cursing the day he was born into human flesh. Jesus was to teach the world that we are not to glory in, walk in, or live in the outer man or human flesh. So he is saying it is cursed to be into human flesh. He is saying not to bless the day we were born as human. For the Word teaches that it were better for one not to have ever been born to live here in flesh and miss God and end up in hellfire. It is better for this person not to have ever been born.

Ec.6:3 If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an UNTIMELY BIRTH is better than he.

Jer 20:15 Cursed be the man who brought tidings to my father, saying, A man child is born unto thee; making him very glad.
Jer 20:16 And let that man be as the cities which the LORD overthrew, and repented not: and let him hear the cry in the morning, and the shouting at noontide;
Jer 20:17 Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me.

Now I am going to show you the spiritual revelation of the above three verse. God just revealed this to me today, April 25, 2005. This part of the above Scripture I had never understood what was being said.

The Word says there is rejoicing in Heaven when a sinner repents. Now this is spiritual talk here. If you think of it in the natural carnal sense, you will never understand it.
God is our Father. God is the Father of Jesus. So when a sinner repents that Father is glad. But there are requirements for us to go through if that baby Christ inside us is going to grow up and be born again into the Kingdom of God.

Rom.8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do MORTIFY THE DEEDS OF THE BODY, ye shall live.
Col.3:5 MORTIFY therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

So, we see from the above verses that we must mortify or kill the outer man in order that the inner man [Christ in us] might live.

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Now all the above verses are very important to understanding the verses in Jeremiah 20: 15-17.
The man child is placed into our spiritual womb when we repent, be baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost. We then begin tasting the Good Word of God. But if we go back on God willfully after this, then we will be lost. That man child will be killed, or aborted, with no hope of coming back to God and eternal life. So an untimely birth were better for such a person.

So who was the man who brought the tiding to the Father that a man- child had been born? It is you, your own self, when you obey the Gospel and are filled with the Seed of God, the Holy Ghost and the Word. Now that baby Christ is growing inside your womb. So you tell God by your repentance that a man- child has been born into his Family, making Him glad. There is rejoicing in Heaven over one sinner who repents!

But, see that God said we must THEN mortify, or KILL the outer man, the flesh, so that Christ Child in us can grow and live. IF that man who delivers the good tidings to the father fails to kill the outer man, then he is under a curse, for he will lose his start he made with God and lose his soul in the end. That is why Jesus cursed the day of the fleshly birth. We must do the same. We must leave that outer man to die and live for the inner man, the spiritual man. See, he said the man was under the curse BECAUSE he failed to slay me [ the fleshly man] from the womb…. or the day he was filled with the Holy Ghost. This is the day the babe is born in the womb. This is the time we must kill or mortify the deeds of the outer man. We must kill the fleshly person that day so the new baby in our womb can grow and live.

Jer 20:17 Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me.

Now he said also, “or that my mother might have been my grave…..” So what is that? Our mother is our outer man, for this is the womb which the spiritual seed of God is placed into. So our human flesh is our spiritual mother which the Christ Child grows inside. It was the same with Jesus. His human flesh was the spiritual Mother which bore the man- child at the resurrection. See that he was not fully born or the begotten “Son of God” until the day of the resurrection, when He dropped the outer man and was given a glorified body.

So then he is saying our flesh, or outer man, must be the ‘grave’ where our human flesh, or outer man dies or is mortified. We must keep that human person in the grave, so the inner man, the new man, can live. They both cannot live. Paul clearly taught that we must and will mortify one or the other. Which will you kill? Which will you allow to grow and live? Remember, you cannot serve TWO masters. You must destroy one or the other.

Then He added, “and her womb to be always great with me”.
So what is this? He is saying do not let the outer man live and destroy, or abort the Christ Child which God placed into you with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Let that seed of God continue to grow inside you SO LONG AS YOU LIVE ON EARTH. Let your spiritual mother, or womb, be always ‘pregnant’ with the Child of God growing inside you. If you lose it, you will lose your soul in hell fire. If you willfully sin against God after he gives you the Seed of God, you will destroy that Spiritual Baby and it will go forth out of your womb and you will end up in hell fire. This is a SHAME to God and Jesus. You disgrace them with this turning back into sin and denying the One who bought you with such a great price.

So our mother, or human flesh, [womb] must be the grave for the old man to stay dead inside. But it must also always be ‘great’ with the Christ Child growing inside us. This is the only way you can obtain eternal life. It is the only way Jesus obtained eternal life. Jesus was the virgin who bore that man child to God. He was the very first one to accomplish this keeping the outer man dead, crucifying the first-man Adam, and walking in the Spirit all the days of his earthly life, and bringing forth the very first only Begotten Son of God in the likeness and glory of God the Father.

Now for the last verse: Jer 20:18 Wherefore came I forth out of the womb to see labour and sorrow, that my days should be consumed with shame?

Why came I forth out of the womb? What womb? The ones who turned back on God, turned back on grace and let the Christ Child inside them go forth out of their womb. They turned BACK to the labour or WORKS AND SORROW of that law. Yes. Law is the works of labour which shames Jesus. Going back to law after one has received the Grace of the Holy Ghost is the way you abort that man child and lose your soul.
See this person did not let the man child continue to grow in their womb. So he came forth out of that womb and died an untimely spiritual birth. It was premature [before the resurrection; therefore it died].
So there is the answer of how to enter the second time into the mother’s womb and be born again.

Amen to such a glorious message!

Jezebel

For a good while now, I keep saying to God, throw her down.
Why? Because I see that the killery clinton is a modern-day jezebel.
This morning God revealed more of this to me
Bill is the Ahab.
See, for any who do not read the Word of God enough to know about this….Ahab was king of the ten tribe nation of Israel. He married a foreign idol worshiper, Jezebel.
She led him into much evil. she had him get a good man killed for his vineyard. 
she was very wicked.
A prophet, Elijah, prophesied that in the same field that Naboth’s blood was shed, that Ahad would also die.
…he said that dogs would eat the flesh of jezebel.

Along came a man named Jehu. They were all afraid of this man. they knew he was not of the ‘establishment’.
He looked up at jezebel, standing in an upper window.
he said who up there is on my side.
Two eunuchs looked down at him.
Jehu said to them, ‘throw her down’. They threw her down and her blood splattered on the ground.
Later Jehu came back and saw that the dogs had eaten jezebel.

So I keep saying, throw her down.
Well this morning God revealed to me that Donald Trump is our Jehu. He keeps saying throw her down.

who is going to throw her down? who is Ahab?
Bill has already been ‘king’ or president. He is the Ahab, just as wicked as they come, but allowing his jezebel to do her evil through his office.
Assange, the wikileeks man, is the EUNUCH who is going to throw her down.
There it is folks;
a perfect lay-out of that old wicked group. all the ‘players’ are in place….so it is a PERFECT TYPE…. we have the perfect fit today….already in place….

Donald, the Jehu, who was to be the next king.

jezebel, the witch….old killery
bill the ahab..wicked king

Assange, the eunuch to throw down the jezebel.

the folks who flat refuse to acknowledge the jezebel’s evil and help destroy her, are the dogs eating her flesh.

Jo Smith…

The Cherub Explained


Date Posted:06/30/2010 3:43 PM

The CHERUB explained Sep 10, ’06 12:39 AM
by freeborn551 for everyone
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 8/26/2006 9:57 PM


Now I will do one more tonight, then go to bed. I am very tired today. worked on cutting down limbs and brush till I bout dropped today.

Now I know this is very confusing to people, so I will show you this one. Then I want you to find me one of your references which does indeed call Satan an angel.

Now I want to show you what a cherub really is; it is not an angel, as most people think. This is why we must find answers in Scripture, no other source. This is all important to finding truth.

Eze 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. (not an angel)
Notice, it said this living creature has the appearance of a MAN, not an angel.

Now know that God is also said to have wings. so wings here only means God’s power. it is not literal wings such as birds have. that is carnal mindedness.

Eze 1:7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
Notice this creature’s feet were straight and like a calf’s foot. I will show you why in a minute.

Eze 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
Now take careful notice of these four faces of this living creature. They show the nature of the mature Christian.

  1. a man
  2. a lion

3.ox

  1. eagle

I have a long message explaining all of this. Someday I hope to take that off tape and type it up. but for now, I will do a quickie of this.

Eze 1:24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.
see their wings were the sound of great waters, as voice of the Almighty, it was a HOST. (lots of people) This is the same as in Rev. when it said the sound of mighty waters as the voice of the Almighty as many people speaking his words. it is the same thing! so see that their wings shows this SPEECH, not feathers.

Now:

Eze 10:5 And the sound of the cherubims’ wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh.
There it is again, proving that these Cherubims are God’s people!

Eze 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
Eze 10:15 And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.
Now there is your proof. See this is the same living creature he saw by the river in chapter one.

they had four faces:

  1. cherub
  2. man
  3. lion
  4. eagle

Now what is changed? the OX is changed and called the cherub.

Do you think this OX could be an angel? If so, what about this MAN, lion, and eagle? Are they also angels? After all, they are on the same living creature!

now you see why is foot was a calf’s foot? this was the OX. the OX is the same as the cherub.

Now the next time we see these four faces is in Rev. 4.

Re 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
Re 4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
Now they are around the throne of God. same four faces.

1.lion

  1. CALF
  2. MAN
  3. eagle.

So see that this calf, is the same as the OX, THE CHERUB.

This is the mature CHRISTIANS, who spoke the words of God, not some man’s words and called it God’s word. their wings were the speach of those who speak the true Word of God.

I say you are reading it right now. This is part of those WINGS.

I could show you much more on this, but it would probably be too much right now. besides I am too tired.

Study this, and get back to me. This CHERUB started with ADAM, WHO WAS AT FIRST SPEAKING GOD’S TRUTH, BEFORE HE TURNED EVIL.

It was a MAN. It is not an angel.

Love ye,

Jo

Adam and Eve

Adam & EveAug 12, ’06 6:29 PM
by tweety134 for everyone

Freeborn, This is my first post about Adam & Eve. These are my own words. I hope you like it. Tweety     Creation of Adam & Eve This message is my attempt to talk about the creation of Adam & Eve from the Bible. Let us look at Gen. 1:26. Gen 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness; and let them have domination over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over everything that creepeth upon the earth. Right here I think that I could write a whole paragraph on what this verse means to me. Let us look at this more closely. God was talking to others, that is the first thing that I see when I read this passage. How many other people? The scriptures do not say. But I think there was more than 1.  People say this is the Trinity. FATHER, SON, HOLY GHOST. God said: “LET US”. This would lead the reader of this passage to interpret that he was not alone when he said this. God does NOT talk to himself. So there had to be other people there that he talked to. It could be angels. But then again as I think upon this more. He would not have consulted with angels, since HE made angels not as powerful as HIM. I believe by this time Lucifer had been cast out of heaven long before this was said. We do not know much about what happened in heaven before Lucifer was kicked out of heaven. Lucifer was an angel of God, so He would not have consulted with Lucifer about the creation of man. The other thing that I get from this one verse is that God was going to make man in HIS image. Yes. We have the same thing as God has. Body, Brains, Hands, Fingers, Feet, etc. But he is more powerful than us. He created us. We did not create HIM. For God to even suggest that we be made after His image and likeness shows the reader that he loved us so much even before we were created, that we were to look like HIM. The next thing that I notice about this verse is we were chosen to have domination over the fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over the whole earth, and everything that creepeth upon the earth. Just imagine before man was even created-God thought about what we were to have control over. Again, this shows God’s love for us BEFORE MAN was created. He fell in love with us long before we came into being. What do you not see in this verse? Can you see it? God made us to have possession and domination over the sea, air, and animals that were NOT made yet upon this earth. God had already clearly thought out that we were above animals that had no inhabited this earth yet. We were a special creation. We were LIKE HIM in every way. But we DID NOT have domination over the heavens. That is God’s territory. That is why we do not have power over the weather, or the changing of the seasons. God has always had domination and power over that. And that will never change. We have no domination over what is in heaven. Just this earth. And it also suggest that before we were created we were to have free will. But man would be obedient to HIM. Gen 1:27: So God created man in His own image, in the image of God, created he him; male and female created he them. God created man in His own image. Right there tells you that we are just like God when it comes to physical appearance. God alone made male and female in HIS image. So all that stuff about how man came to being, by apes long ago is utter nonsense. Science is just a way for man to disprove that God exist and everything he created on this earth, was made from something on this earth. We were made by GOD himself in Heaven. Gen 1:28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it and have domination over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. This passage tells us alot. God blessed the man and women after He created them. He spoke to man & women directly. And from the moment that they were created they could reproduce. So that means that Adam and Eve were created adult like. You would not suspect that God would tell little children to fruitful and multiply? So, they could reproduce and have children right after they were created. Now this next passage in scripture tells me something. God told Adam & Eve to replenish the earth. Why would the earth need replenishing? And in the next sentence God says subdue the earth. Was earth when Adam & Eve were created a place that needed subduing? Why? In this passage, I will go on what DAKE says. That they earth was inhabited by sons  of god. They are the giants of the earth. Getting into that is a long story. The giants were he offspring of the angels and women that were cast out of heaven when Lucifer was thrown out. He was cast down upon the earth. I believe somewhere in scripture God said that Lucifer was suppose to be ruler over the earth, but he rebelled against God. Man was created to bring life back to earth. God had destroyed everything that was upon the earth. This is NOT Noah’s flood. But Lucifer’s flood. And he gave Lucifer’s position to have domination over the earth to man. That is why he hates man so much. In his pursuit of continuing to defy God he will try and destroy us any way that he can. Gen 1:29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. This verse also tells us that in the beginning that man and women were created, that they were only to eat herbs and fruit. You don’t see in this verse where he says that man was to be eat meat of the animals. Only herbs, and fruit were to be meat and substance for Adam & Eve. Gen 1:30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and everything that creepeth, upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given, every green herb for meat; and it is so. In the beginning, God made the herbs of the earth for man and beast to eat. There was no meat eating for the beasts of the earth of fowls of the air. That is interesting. When did man want meat to eat?

Declaring The End From the Beginning-PT. 1.

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 8/25/2005 8:58 PM

~ Declaring the end from the beginning ~

It is now 2:10 a.m. August 25, 2005. I have been up very late for several nights, teaching the Word on computer. Tonight I have slept one hour. Then I awoke and could not go back to sleep. Physically, I very much need some sleep, but my soul is afire with this Word of God. I started reading some in the Word. I went into Isaiah, and then began to receive this revelation. So now I will attempt to write some of this tonight. May God bless this and strengthen my body.

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Now in Scripture, the ‘former things of old’ usually refers to before the flood. So now God is telling us to remember some thing before the flood. Why? Because everything had it’s beginning over there. Everything in the Word of God shows what happened back in that ancient society from Adam to the flood. When we study the word, it should show us what happened with Adam and his world. It should also show us what happened on down through all times. It should show us Jesus Christ and his kingdom.

So then we see that God said He declared the end from the beginning. So if you go back to the beginning in Genesis, you will see how the end will be. If you study the Word and allow the Spirit to guide you, then you will be able to read anywhere in the Scriptures and find out how it was in the beginning and also, by the very same Scripture, see how the end will be.

So in Genesis one, we find that God created a perfect world in his likeness and his image. Everything there was perfect and very good. That has never changed. It never will. So two thing took place there: God made a Spiritual world with life in itself. The last thing he made was a perfect man and woman, in his own likeness and image. This man and woman is Jesus Christ and his bride. So see that this is the END. It will take place in the end. It is taking place right now. It started when Jesus was resurrected from the dead. But it also started when Jesus was born, for without this person living his perfect life, then there would have been no resurrected Son of God in God’s own glory. Then Jesus started placing His Holy Ghost into others to bring them into the very same perfection. They are the sons of God.

Now God made another Son of God. This was Adam. Adam was also perfect in his beginning. He was a glorified son of God. He was given dominion of this earth. But something went wrong. Adam became lifted up in pride and was actually jealous of God. He wanted to be God. He wanted to be worshipped. He did not want God to rule over him. So he rebelled against God and ate of the tree which God had forbidden him to eat of, for this tree would bring death. But Adam saw that in taking of this tree, he could become as a god. So this is what he did.

Adam and Eve had glory we know nothing about. They had power we know nothing about. But Adam turned evil and used this power for self-glorying. All through the Scriptures, we can find out what Adam did and how he did it, by reading the things which show his sins. You can find these things in all the Word. We can also learn many things about Jesus and what he does, by reading the Scriptures. Many Scriptures which do not appear to be speaking of these two sons, is actually about them. In fact, the entire word of God is about these two coverings.

God anointed both of his sons. So this anointing is power from God. When you read about Jacob and Israel, these are speaking of both Adam and Jesus. When you read about David and Saul, this is speaking about Adam and Jesus. When you read about Cyrus, Zerubbabel, Joshua and others, they are all showing the things concerning Jesus. Many others show the things about Adam. This is how you learn about these two sons of God.

Isa.` 43:27 Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me. 43:28 Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.

Now see that this is showing that our first father, Adam, sinned and his teachers transgressed against God. In other words, Adam set up ‘churches’ and placed teachers in them. But they were teaching that Adam was God. They were causing people to worship Adam. So God profaned Adam’s princes of his churches and gave them to the curse. “Cursed is the ground for your sake.”

Cain was Adam’s main prince. He was also lifted up as a god. Isa 43:18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. 43:19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

See, God told us to remember the former things of old = before the flood. Then he said I will do a new thing. He made a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert. Now this is about Jesus. He is the new thing. He brought new life into the desolate and dry humans.

So we are told in two different Scriptures here to remember the former things of old. It is important to learning the real truth. We find that Adam and Cain set up many images for the people to worship. They actually were images of themselves. Isa 42:17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.

Isa 44:9 They that make a graven image are all of them vanity;…[I am not quoting entire verses here to save space; read it in your Word and you will get more out of this.]

Isa 44:10 Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing? Isa 44:11 Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: …..

Isa 44:12 The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint.

Now see that all these people were working in Adam’s business of making churches and idols. They worked with all their might, but they were hungry, spiritually. They had no strength and they drank no spiritual water, so they were faint, meaning they were dead spiritually. They laboured for Adam and worked hard for their ‘church’, yet they were dying spiritually. It is the very same today.

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.

Now this verse proves they were making these idols after the figure of a beautiful man. This means Adam. Adam was the one who was accredited with such perfect beauty. [Eze. 28] Isa 53:2 speaking of Jesus said there was no beauty of him to desire. So Adam was the beautiful one. So these people were all working to make idols of Adam. They were worshipping Adam.

Isa 44:15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto. Now Adam also made these idols and worshipped them. It is shown in the great man, Solomon. See at first Solomon loved God and did right. But then he changed and worshipped idols. This was showing what Adam did. David shows the love Jesus had for God.

Isa 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?

Now this feeding on ashes is speaking of the fact that God changed Adam’s glory and placed him into this body of dust. He made him become mortal so he could die. Now Adam is ‘feeding’ on ashes, meaning he no longer has the true Spiritual things, but he has now only the earthly, material, money things. Dust is the Serpent’s meat. Now, all the serpents have is merchandise. They are now into the love of money and material things such as fancy Church Buildings. This is how he is feeding on ashes. He no longer can ‘eat’ the Word or things of God. His deceived heart turned him aside so he cannot deliver his soul. He is bound for hell fire.

Isa 44:21 Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.

Isa 44:23 Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.

This is speaking of Jesus. God glorified himself in Jesus. He is calling Israel Jesus, for this is the Heavenly name of God’s Son.

Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; Isa 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

Here God is telling Jesus that He formed Jesus from the womb. Then he said he has frustrated the things the liars, Adam and Cain, were attempting to accomplish. It is their wisdom which he turned into foolishness. See, at first Adam was wiser than anyone, but now he has become foolish, and Jesus has replaced him as the covering for God’s children. Glory!

Isa 44:26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof: Isa 44:27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:

Eze31:15 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I COVERED THE DEEP for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.

Here God said he is confirming the word of his servant, Jesus. The counsel of his messengers is the Apostles. They were the ones saying to the Holy Jerusalem to be built. Paul and Peter were laying that foundation and building those walls.

When he dried up the deep and made thy rivers dry, this is speaking of drying up the stuff of Adam, the first man, or the outer man. We must die to this and live after the Spirit. He did away with all of Adam’s rivers or people. This was at the time of the great flood. He did away with that generation of the headship of Adam there. This is how he dried up all their rivers. This is where they went down to the grave. It is still being accomplished. But this end was declared from the beginning.

Isa 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

Here Cyrus is Jesus. He is the one who built the true temple of God and laid the foundation. It is also speaking of the true ministers of Jesus, for we are all one. This includes the work of the Apostles.

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

Here God is saying of Jesus that He holds his right hand, which is his power or authority. He will subdue nations before Jesus, for Jesus will conquer the entire world and rule it. He loosed the loins of the kings of the NT, we who serve him. We are kings and priests to God, through Jesus Christ. He placed that open door into the New Jerusalem and it will never be shut.

Isa 45:2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

This is the ministry of John the Baptist, going before Jesus and making the crooked places straight. Those gates of brass and iron was that LAW OF MOSES. It was the beast kingdom of the OT ruling by LAW. This was broken by John as he cried ‘grace, grace’ to Jesus. Jesus gave us grace, thus taking away those gates of law and the bars of iron. That law was the iron. The ‘gates’ of brass was that law. It opened into the OT. But we now have the new gates opened by Jesus, which is grace.

Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

This was the great wisdom God gave to Jesus as he spoke those dark saying of old. He was given the knowledge of the secret places or deep knowledge of God. Knowing him by name is the sure sign that he was of God. Unless God calls us by name, we do not belong to Him. He named Jesus.

Isa 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

This is God speaking of Jesus that he directs all his ways and he will build the Holy City and resurrect the children of God, not for price nor reward……proving that the true ministers of God do not work for pay.

Isa 46:1 Bel boweth down, Nebo stoopeth, their idols were upon the beasts, and upon the cattle: your carriages were heavy loaden; they are a burden to the weary beast. Isa 46:2 They stoop, they bow down together; they could not deliver the burden, but themselves are gone into captivity.

This is showing how Adam and Cain put such heavy burdens on their people. They laid that law upon them and made the work hard at their idol worship. But they themselves went into captivity to the dust flesh they became.

cont.

Declaring The End From the Beginning

part 2]

Mt 1:2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;

Abraham is the beginning of the Spiritual seed line to Christ. It is not dealing with the fleshly fathers. It is showing the spiritual fathers. Isaac and Jacob were also spiritual, so this spiritual line passed through them. Next Judas picked up this spirit seed and passed it on to his son Phares. Now Phares had a twin brother, Zara. But see that the spiritual seed passed through Phares, just as it had through Jacob and not Esau. The spiritual seed passed into God’s second Son, Jesus and not in that first son, Adam.

Mt 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

Now if you write down all the generations listed here from Abraham to Jesus and count them, you will see that there were only 41 generations. So what does this mean? It means that Jesus was a human man, and he counted as a separate generation from the generation of CHRIST.

Christ is that 42nd generation! So see then that Christ was the inner-man of Jesus? He came out of that grave as a separate generation from the Jesus who went into that grave! That is proof that Christ, the Emmanuel, was the son of the virgin, Jesus, and not the son of the virgin, Mary. Mary did NOT birth Emmanuel. She birthed the Jesus who gave spiritual birth to the Christ.

Jesus ended the generations of Adam, which started in Genesis. Christ started the Generations of Jesus Christ, which is the LAST of the generations. There will never be another one. You are either in the generations of Jesus Christ [faith] or you are in the generations of Adam [carnal flesh].

Now if you go into the genealogy in Luke, it starts at Jesus: Lu 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Now being the ‘son of’ means in the flesh. It is not the same as the ‘begotten’. This genealogy goes all the way back to Adam, which was the son of God.

Now many suppose that because this says that Adam was the son of God, that it means that Adam stayed righteous and died righteous. But this is far from the truth. He was the son of God only by creation. He was never begotten as a son of God. He died lost. He became wicked, rebelled against God and never repented. His sins are held against him till the end. His sins are remembered by God and named all the way down into the NT, proving Adam never repented or was forgiven. Adam was lifted up in pride and haughtiness which God hates. Adam was jealous of God and wanted to be God.

The very fact that Abraham is called the father of us all, shows that Adam is not the father of the righteous. He is not counted in the genealogy in Matt because he was not in the Spiritual seed line.

There are more men named between Abraham and Jesus in Luke than there are in Matt because there were more in the fleshly line than there was in the spiritual line. Sometimes a man did not pass the spiritual seed into his son. It passed from this man into his grandson. This is proven many times with their kings. One king would be righteous and serve God. His son would be evil, but his grandson would pick back up on the spiritual seed and serve God. So this shortened the number of men in the spiritual line. But everything concerning the Spiritual life is very precise with God. It could not be by pure accident that there could be three exact divisions of this line. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David; fourteen between David and the carrying away into Babylon and from there to Christ is another fourteen generations. This had to be for a definite purpose with God. There is no such precision in the genealogy in Luke. The flesh is not so determined as the Spirit.

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [Eve was the mother of all living.] See this connection here? Eve is synonymous with Holy Jerusalem. What about Adam?

God had two sons. Abraham is representing God is Gal. 4. Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. So who is this bondchild? It is Adam and all who follow the flesh as Adam did. It is law. Adam plunged the entire world into law or bondage. So Adam was God’s son in bondage. The bondchild shall not be heir with the freechild. Jesus Christ was the freechild. But notice something. Jesus before the resurrection was UNDER LAW. So the first man Adam, [his fleshly life] was in bondage. Everyone is in bondage so long as you live after the flesh, or the outer man. See then that the outer man, Jesus, could not be heir with the free child, the inner man, or Christ. Jesus, the outer man was sent into hell and done away with. But the inner man, the Christ or Emmanuel, forming inside Jesus all his life, was resurrected into eternal life. Then the bondchild was not heir with this freechild. Henceforth know we Christ no more after the flesh.

But with Adam the bondchild was never dropped. He lived after the flesh, or ate of the dust, all his life. He had no inner Christ developing inside. He was totally given over to sin, law, and flesh. He was the dust. He ate of that fleshly life all his days. He never repented and served God again. That is why God is never called the God of Adam. Adam was the god of Adam. Adam is the bondchild. If you live after the flesh you shall die as did Adam. You will never have eternal life as did Jesus.

But God did not place Adam under that bondage of law. Adam chose this himself. So does everyone else who lives in bondage to law. God had placed Adam under grace or life in the beginning. God had commanded Adam NOT to eat of that law tree, for it brings DEATH. So Adam passed from life unto death. Only in Jesus Christ, through the Holy Ghost, may we again pass from death unto life. We are all born in the bondage of this human flesh which Adam plunged us into. The body itself is a prison of bondage. We will be delivered from this bondage at our resurrection IF we have served God and left the flesh and walked in the Spirit. This is absolutely the only way back to freedom, or the Holy Jerusalem.

Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Isaac was born after the promise. What was the promise? God promised Eve that her seed would bruise the head of that serpent. That was the promise. God kept his promise to Eve and brought that righteous seed in her down to Jesus Christ, who did indeed bruise that head of evil in the serpent. See that those born after the flesh persecute those born after the Spirit. See then that Adam and Cain were persecuting the righteous. Cain killed the righteous brother, Abel. This grieved Eve for she saw her hope of the righteous seed cut off. But when she birthed Seth she rejoiced for she now saw another righteous seed line up. So that righteous seed came from Eve into Seth. From this seed came Jesus who was the fulfillment of that promise to Eve. See also that it was the fleshly Jerusalem, which now is and is in bondage of law, which was persecuting that righteous seed in the days of Jesus and that early church. Those very religious hypocrites [serpents] of the Pharisees and the chief priests were the very ones who persecuted and killed Jesus. They then proceeded to persecute and kill the Christians. It was that same old murdering spirit from Cain on down. Satan was a murderer from the beginning. This killing of Abel is exactly where that murder was committed.

Ga l4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Cast OUT the bondwoman and her son. So God cast Adam out of that Garden of Eden. The serpent was the ‘son’ of Adam, or his carnal mind. It is just the same as Christ was the ‘son’ of Jesus. It is your inner man or the mind. To be carnally minded is DEATH. Adam had become carnally minded when he disobeyed God and went into law, so he could rule over Eve and be god. Adam set up the animal sacrifices, for that law demands the death of animals. Hebrews said that they are offered by the law. All of this is that carnal mind. That carnal mind is the serpent. The Christians are not children of that bondwoman, law. We are of the freewoman, grace. Law is bondage and death. To be carnally minded is death.

Mt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Mt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:

Sitting in Moses’ seat means they were the rulers in law. The scribes and Pharisees were of law.

Mt 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, Mt 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

This identifies the pastors of the churches today. Also that they do their works [build buildings] to be seen of men.

Mt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Every bit of this identifies the pastors of today and of course all of it fits Adam. Whatever you read of evil in the Word shows all that Adam was and became. They will take their ‘tithes’ from widows and call it righteous. They are hypocrites. A hypocrite is the serpent. Look it up.

Mt 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Mt 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

See that he called them BLIND. This is the blind church of today. They look so beautiful on the outside but inside those churches you will find the DEAD.

Mt 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, Mt 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Mt 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Mt 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Now you either must call this Scripture and Jesus a lie or admit that these religious hypocrites are the very same kind of serpent as was in that Garden of Eden, talking to Eve. It was that carnal, hypocrite mind of Adam, her husband, whom she trusted to tell her the truth. How can they escape the damnation of hell?

See also that he said they are the one who killed all the righteous people. They shed all the righteous blood upon this earth. So this proves that the serpent/Satan, began with Adam and Cain.

Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation

What generation is Jesus speaking of here? He told them they have shed all the righteous blood on earth and will yet kill all the ones He will send to them. He is speaking to that generation of ADAM, that first serpent. There are only two main generations listed in Scripture, that of Adam and Jesus Christ.

Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Now there is full proof that the murder of Abel by Cain is included in this generation of the guilty serpents. Do you think that Jesus was only speaking to those men standing there in front of him and saying that they are guilty of killing Abel? Of course not. Is he telling them that all these things shall come upon them personally? No. He is speaking to that generation of Adam, the serpent. It has to be either the generation of Adam [Gen 5] or the Generation of Jesus Christ [Mat one]. One of these two generations is the serpent. Which one do you think it is? Did the Christians go about persecuting and killing? No, they were persecuted and killed.

Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Mt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Now that positively settles it that Jesus meant the Jerusalem, which now is and is in bondage with her children, when he called them Serpents and vipers and the murderers of all the righteous from Abel to the end. They are the desolate ones. They are those in bondage. Bondage is law. Bondage is the flesh or dust. Bondage is that carnal mind. Adam is that son of bondage. Adam is SATAN.

No message on Adam or the serpent could ever be complete without this chapter in Matthew 23.

By: Jo Smith

Begotten

~ Begotten ~ ***9/11/05

What is the Word of God calling begotten children? Is it speaking of one’s natural children? If so, then why does the Word say that Isaac was the only begotten son of Abraham? Of course in the flesh it does at times call natural children begotten. But for the most part, God is speaking of spiritual children.

One must learn to ‘hear’ the Word of God Spiritually in order to get the truth. For instance read this: Nu11:12 Have I conceived all this people? have I BEGOTTEN them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers?

See that – a nursing father? Now in the natural, who ever heard of a nursing father? See this has to be spiritual. He is speaking of the father who feeds his children the Word or milk of God.

Isa49:21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath BEGOTTEN me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?

Now that is Jesus speaking. He is speaking of the NT Christians when he asked who has begotten me these. He lost the other children, which were the OT Law people. So this ‘begotten’ has to be spiritual. He is asking who converted all these people to me or in other words, who ‘fathered’ them in the gospel. Who brought them into the kingdom of God.

Ho 5:3 I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou committest whoredom, and Israel is defiled. Ho 5:4 They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the LORD. Ho 5:5 And the pride of Israel doth testify to his face: therefore shall Israel and Ephraim fall in their iniquity; Judah also shall fall with them.

Ho 5:6 They shall go with their flocks and with their herds to seek the LORD; but they shall not find him; he hath withdrawn himself from them. [This is because God turned to the NT salvation. They were trying to still find God under law, but it can not be done.]

Ho 5:7 They have dealt treacherously against the LORD: for they have begotten strange children: now shall a month devour them with their portions.

Ho 5:8 Blow ye the cornet in Gibeah, and the trumpet in Ramah: cry aloud at Bethaven, after thee, O Benjamin.

Ho 5:9 Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.

See that the above Scripture is speaking of Israel being defiled and a whore against God. This reaches down to the end when the church is in this same condition of whoredoms. See verse nine, he said among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be. He has shown all that is to come later, in those twelve tribes. So this condition is in the church today. They have begotten strange children. This means they are pretending to be the children of God, but they are in fact Satan’s children, for they were begotten of whoredom.

It is totally spiritual. If you try to understand this from a natural standpoint, you will miss it completely.

Now see this dealing treacherously against the LORD by begetting STRANGE children would have to be spiritual. It is saying these ‘churched’ people are not truly born of God, for they brought up another ‘plan’ of salvation other than that which God set up on the Day of Pentecost. There is no other means of salvation. If you try to convert children to God some other way, they are STRANGE children. They are not begotten of God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Now everyone, carefully read those verses. It is speaking of God and His Word. It is NOT speaking of Jesus. It said the WORD was with God and the Word was God. It did not say Jesus was with God and Jesus was God. It did not say that at all. When it said all things were made by him, it is speaking of God. All things were made by God and His Word.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now I have written many message explaining the above verse. But people are fully indoctrinated with error that they cannot receive the truth. This is NOT speaking of the natural birth of Jesus as a human being. The Word was not made into a human person. We are not told that we must eat this human person in order to have eternal life. Go into Romans 1:3 and you will see that Jesus was only called the begotten Son on the day of his resurrection, not the day he was born as a baby. Now the resurrected Christ was in the image of God. The human baby was in the image of sinful man.

So the begotten Son of God was the risen Christ. This was the manchild of Jesus, not Mary. It was the inner man of Jesus brought forth out of the grave in perfection. This was when, where, and how the Word was made flesh. It is Spiritual Flesh. It is not natural flesh. Only in the glorification was Jesus in the image of God. Even then, He is not God. He is only given to be our God because of his total obedience to God. This man, raised from the dead by God himself, is the one and only human being which God himself begot in his own likeness and image. All the rest of us will be begotten by Jesus into the likeness and image of Jesus. God said he predestinated for us to become transformed into the image of his son.

See also that Jesus called us HIS children. We are begotten of Jesus. So to call Jesus God is to totally miss the fact that Jesus was the only human being God has ever or will ever give to set upon the throne of God and rule as God with all the same power and authority of God.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

See here that it said no man hath seen God at ANY TIME. So if Jesus were God, then this would be incorrect, would it not? But he said the only begotten Son has declared him. This is the resurrected Christ. HE is the only begotten Son of God. The rest of us will be raised up from the dead by Jesus Christ. Thus we are the begotten children of Jesus, and through Jesus we are sons of God.

Ac 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, Ac 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. Ac 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Ac 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Now notice that he proves right here that the day God beget this Son was the day He raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus is declared to be the first BEGOTTEN from the dead. So this verse alone proves the ‘Begotten’ is not speaking of when Mary birthed Jesus. Was she the dead? Of course not. There is just too much proof of this in the Word of God for so many to be totally deceived about this.

1Cor 4:14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

1Cor 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

1Cor 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

1Cor 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

Now there is full proof that the begetting is spiritual. See that Paul said they are his children for he begot them through the gospel. It was not natural, it was spiritual. See also that he called Timotheous his son. This is not natural, but spiritual, for we know that Timothy was not the natural son of Paul. Paul begot him in the gospel as a child of God.

Phm 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

This verse also proves that Paul was speaking of converting them to Christ when he said I have begotten them. Surely you know that Paul did not naturally beget Onesimus while in his bonds?

Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son. Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Now see this says that Isaac was the only begotten son of Abraham. Yet we know that Abraham also had Ishmael before he had Isaac. So then it has to be speaking of the SPIRITUAL child here. It is showing here that the begotten is speaking of the one to whom the spiritual seed of God would pass. See that Ishmael is not counted for the spiritual seed here. Sure Abraham beget Ishmael in the natural, but don’t you see here that it said Isaac was the only begotten Son of Abraham? Also Abraham had five other sons by Keturah after Sarah died. They are also not called his begotten son here. So this thing is showing that the spiritual seed passed through Isaac and none of the others. This verse alone PROVES that when it speaks of the ‘begotten’ son, it is showing the one through which the SPIRITUAL SEED PASSES. Learn this!

1Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Now there is more proof that the begotten has to do with the spiritual birth and this is connected with the resurrection of Jesus. It is just solidly proven in all these Scriptures. This revelation shows that God, the Father, passed His Holy Seed of Life through Jesus Christ down to us! My, what glory!

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

There is more proof that the time Jesus was begotten was at the time of his resurrection. So it is speaking spiritual and not natural. It is not speaking of when Mary gave birth to Jesus. It is speaking of when God raised him from the DEAD.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

There is where, when, and how Jesus was set up by God to be worshipped as God. It does not mean that Jesus is actually God. It means that we now worship Jesus and this makes him be our God. He is also our Father in that he is the one who begets us to God. He passes his Holy Seed into us. So by this we are begotten of Jesus. We become sons of God through Jesus Christ.

Now for one more proof before I go into the genealogies.

John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Ro9:7 Neither, because they are the SEED OF ABRAHAM, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Joh 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

Ro 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Now don’t you see here that all the natural seed of Abraham are not counted as his children. The Spiritual seed are the children. The promise to Abraham was to his seed through faith, therefore it passed only through those who came into grace or faith. Being the seed of Abraham did not make them be what God called children. There is a vast difference between the natural seed and the children of God.

Ro 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, [Abraham is the natural father of his seed, and he is the spiritual father of the children, not Adam]. See a mystery here: Eve is called the Mother of all living, but Adam is not called our father. Abraham is called the father of us all. Why is this?

Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Ga 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise

Now that is enough Scripture to prove to the hardest person that the begetting of children is in the spirit, not in the flesh. Another thing I want to point out here is that you will never find that it said God is the God of Adam. God is spoken of as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob numerous times in the Word. He is also called the God of Jesus many times in the Word.

Now that I have proven to you by the Scriptures that the begotten son means the one through which the spiritual seed passes, let me show you why the genealogies in Matt. and Luke are so vastly different. Also this will prove to you that Adam is not in the spiritual line.

Mt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Now do you consider why this does not say Jesus is the son of Adam? Wonder why? Since almost everyone thinks that Adam still remained as a holy son of God, why is he not mentioned here? It is because the spiritual line only goes back to Abraham. Abraham is the father of us all, not Adam. In the natural flesh it goes back to Adam. But the spiritual seed starts with Abraham. Now the genealogy in Matt. is giving the SPIRITUAL line from Abraham to Jesus Christ. It is NOT giving the fleshly, natural line. That is given in Luke.

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Mt 1:2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;

Abraham is the beginning of the Spiritual seed line to Christ. It is not dealing with the fleshly fathers. It is showing the spiritual fathers. Isaac and Jacob were also spiritual, so this spiritual line passed through them. Next Judas picked up this spirit seed and passed it on to his son Phares. Now Phares had a twin brother, Zara. But see that the spiritual seed passed through Phares, just as it had through Jacob and not Esau. The spiritual seed passed into God’s second Son, Jesus and not in that first son, Adam.

Mt 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

Now if you write down all the generations listed here from Abraham to Jesus and count them, you will see that there were only 41 generations. So what does this mean? It means that Jesus was a human man, and he counted as a separate generation from the generation of CHRIST.

Christ is that 42nd generation! So see then that Christ was the inner-man of Jesus? He came out of that grave as a separate generation from the Jesus who went into that grave! That is proof that Christ, the Emmanuel, was the son of the virgin, Jesus, and not the son of the virgin, Mary. Mary did NOT birth Emmanuel. She birthed the Jesus who gave spiritual birth to the Christ.

Jesus ended the generations of Adam, which started in Genesis. Christ started the Generations of Jesus Christ, which is the LAST of the generations. There will never be another one. You are either in the generations of Jesus Christ [faith] or you are in the generations of Adam [carnal flesh].

Now if you go into the genealogy in Luke, it starts at Jesus: Lu 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Now being the ‘son of’ means in the flesh. It is not the same as the ‘begotten’. This genealogy goes all the way back to Adam, which was the son of God.

Now many suppose that because this says that Adam was the son of God, that it means that Adam stayed righteous and died righteous. But this is far from the truth. He was the son of God only by creation. He was never begotten as a son of God. He died lost. He became wicked, rebelled against God and never repented. His sins are held against him till the end. His sins are remembered by God and named all the way down into the NT, proving Adam never repented or was forgiven. Adam was lifted up in pride and haughtiness which God hates. Adam was jealous of God and wanted to be God.

The very fact that Abraham is called the father of us all, shows that Adam is not the father of the righteous. He is not counted in the genealogy in Matt because he was not in the Spiritual seed line.

There are more men named between Abraham and Jesus in Luke than there are in Matt because there were more in the fleshly line than there was in the spiritual line. Sometimes a man did not pass the spiritual seed into his son. It passed from this man into his grandson. This is proven many times with their kings. One king would be righteous and serve God. His son would be evil, but his grandson would pick back up on the spiritual seed and serve God. So this shortened the number of men in the spiritual line. But everything concerning the Spiritual life is very precise with God. It could not be by pure accident that there could be three exact divisions of this line. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David; fourteen between David and the carrying away into Babylon and from there to Christ is another fourteen generations. This had to be for a definite purpose with God. There is no such precision in the genealogy in Luke. The flesh is not so determined as the Spirit.

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [Eve was the mother of all living.] See this connection here? Eve is synonymous with Holy Jerusalem. What about Adam?

God had two sons. Abraham is representing God is Gal. 4. Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. So who is this bondchild? It is Adam and all who follow the flesh as Adam did. It is law. Adam plunged the entire world into law or bondage. So Adam was God’s son in bondage. The bondchild shall not be heir with the freechild. Jesus Christ was the freechild. But notice something. Jesus before the resurrection was UNDER LAW. So the first man Adam, [his fleshly life] was in bondage. Everyone is in bondage so long as you live after the flesh, or the outer man. See then that the outer man, Jesus, could not be heir with the free child, the inner man, or Christ. Jesus, the outer man was sent into hell and done away with. But the inner man, the Christ or Emmanuel, forming inside Jesus all his life, was resurrected into eternal life. Then the bondchild was not heir with this freechild. Henceforth know we Christ no more after the flesh.

But with Adam the bondchild was never dropped. He lived after the flesh, or ate of the dust, all his life. He had no inner Christ developing inside. He was totally given over to sin, law, and flesh. He was the dust. He ate of that fleshly life all his days. He never repented and served God again. That is why God is never called the God of Adam. Adam was the god of Adam. Adam is the bondchild. If you live after the flesh you shall die as did Adam. You will never have eternal life as did Jesus.

But God did not place Adam under that bondage of law. Adam chose this himself. So does everyone else who lives in bondage to law. God had placed Adam under grace or life in the beginning. God had commanded Adam NOT to eat of that law tree, for it brings DEATH. So Adam passed from life unto death. Only in Jesus Christ, through the Holy Ghost, may we again pass from death unto life. We are all born in the bondage of this human flesh which Adam plunged us into. The body itself is a prison of bondage. We will be delivered from this bondage at our resurrection IF we have served God and left the flesh and walked in the Spirit. This is absolutely the only way back to freedom, or the Holy Jerusalem.

Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Isaac was born after the promise. What was the promise? God promised Eve that her seed would bruise the head of that serpent. That was the promise. God kept his promise to Eve and brought that righteous seed in her down to Jesus Christ, who did indeed bruise that head of evil in the serpent. See that those born after the flesh persecute those born after the Spirit. See then that Adam and Cain were persecuting the righteous. Cain killed the righteous brother, Abel. This grieved Eve for she saw her hope of the righteous seed cut off. But when she birthed Seth she rejoiced for she now saw another righteous seed line up. So that righteous seed came from Eve into Seth. From this seed came Jesus who was the fulfillment of that promise to Eve. See also that it was the fleshly Jerusalem, which now is and is in bondage of law, which was persecuting that righteous seed in the days of Jesus and that early church. Those very religious hypocrites [serpents] of the Pharisees and the chief priests were the very ones who persecuted and killed Jesus. They then proceeded to persecute and kill the Christians. It was that same old murdering spirit from Cain on down. Satan was a murderer from the beginning. This killing of Abel is exactly where that murder was committed.

Ga l4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Cast OUT the bondwoman and her son. So God cast Adam out of that Garden of Eden. The serpent was the ‘son’ of Adam, or his carnal mind. It is just the same as Christ was the ‘son’ of Jesus. It is your inner man or the mind. To be carnally minded is DEATH. Adam had become carnally minded when he disobeyed God and went into law, so he could rule over Eve and be god. Adam set up the animal sacrifices, for that law demands the death of animals. Hebrews said that they are offered by the law. All of this is that carnal mind. That carnal mind is the serpent. The Christians are not children of that bondwoman, law. We are of the freewoman, grace. Law is bondage and death. To be carnally minded is death.

Mt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Mt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:

Sitting in Moses’ seat means they were the rulers in law. The scribes and Pharisees were of law.

Mt 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, Mt 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

This identifies the pastors of the churches today. Also that they do their works [build buildings] to be seen of men.

Mt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Every bit of this identifies the pastors of today and of course all of it fits Adam. Whatever you read of evil in the Word shows all that Adam was and became. They will take their ‘tithes’ from widows and call it righteous. They are hypocrites. A hypocrite is the serpent. Look it up.

Mt 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Mt 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

See that he called them BLIND. This is the blind church of today. They look so beautiful on the outside but inside those churches you will find the DEAD.

Mt 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, Mt 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Mt 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Mt 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Now you either must call this Scripture and Jesus a lie or admit that these religious hypocrites are the very same kind of serpent as was in that Garden of Eden, talking to Eve. It was that carnal, hypocrite mind of Adam, her husband, whom she trusted to tell her the truth. How can they escape the damnation of hell?

See also that he said they are the one who killed all the righteous people. They shed all the righteous blood upon this earth. So this proves that the serpent/Satan, began with Adam and Cain.

Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation

What generation is Jesus speaking of here? He told them they have shed all the righteous blood on earth and will yet kill all the ones He will send to them. He is speaking to that generation of ADAM, that first serpent. There are only two main generations listed in Scripture, that of Adam and Jesus Christ.

Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Now there is full proof that the murder of Abel by Cain is included in this generation of the guilty serpents. Do you think that Jesus was only speaking to those men standing there in front of him and saying that they are guilty of killing Abel? Of course not. Is he telling them that all these things shall come upon them personally? No. He is speaking to that generation of Adam, the serpent. It has to be either the generation of Adam [Gen 5] or the Generation of Jesus Christ [Mat one]. One of these two generations is the serpent. Which one do you think it is? Did the Christians go about persecuting and killing? No, they were persecuted and killed.

Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Mt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Now that positively settles it that Jesus meant the Jerusalem, which now is and is in bondage with her children, when he called them Serpents and vipers and the murderers of all the righteous from Abel to the end. They are the desolate ones. They are those in bondage. Bondage is law. Bondage is the flesh or dust. Bondage is that carnal mind. Adam is that son of bondage. Adam is SATAN.

No message on Adam or the serpent could ever be complete without this chapter in Matthew 23.

By: Jo Smith

When God Remembers Your Sin

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 6/10/2005 6:17 PM

~ When God Remembers your sins ~

Today is Thursday, 6/9/05. This message is a follow-up of the one I did before on the Mystery One. I know that God wants me to reveal more on this subject of God remembering your sins. By this method we may determine the eternal destination of characters in the Word of God. The very same principle applies to everyone who ever lived.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Eze 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Eze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

Eze 18:27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

Eze 18:28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Now I know I covered this in the other message, but it is not common knowledge, so we must go into it again. Study the above Scriptures real closely. It is a principle of God which He never has changed. He never will change it. This is for everyone. By this principle we find out that Adam was a wicked man who died in his sins. We also find out that Eve was a righteous woman, who has eternal life. We find out that Cain was a wicked man who died in his sins. Jesus himself bore witness that Abel was a righteous man.

Now what proves that Adam died in his sins? I proved this in the message, The Mystery One. But I want to go over this again for a purpose. For one thing, it seems that almost everyone is deceived about Adam and Eve. Almost everyone believes that Adam was a righteous person and Eve was wicked. Right the opposite is true. The above Scripture proves this. Let’s look at it.

God said in verse 21 & 22 if the wicked will turn from all his sins and do good he will not mention his sins to him and he will live. He said in verse 24 that if a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, his righteousness will not be mentioned. He shall die in his sins.

Now this is the principle of God. Check all the Scriptures which speak anything about Adam. Not one of them ever mentions any righteousness for Adam. It is not once mentioned. If you can find where righteousness is attributed to Adam, show it to me. I cannot find one good word spoken about Adam. Job said Adam hid his sins in his bosom. Paul said in Adam all die. Paul said Adam sinned and brought death upon us all. See, his sins are mentioned till the end. Not one word about any righteousness is mentioned. This proves that Adam was wicked and died in his sins.

Now what about Eve? We find that Eve was deceived; she did not willfully sin against God. Adam deceived her. BUT there is solid proof that Eve repented and turned back to righteousness. Her sins are not mentioned anymore, only to tell what took place in the Garden. Look up ‘Adam’ in the Strongs Hebrew dictionary. It means a mean, low sort of man. It means a hypocrite. It means to be made RED [the red dragon].

Look up ‘Eve’. It means life giver or restorer to life. Adam said she was the Mother of all living. ‘Living’ signifies those who have the life of God. New Jerusalem is the Mother of us all. So this ties Eve with the Holy City of God.

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Notice here that Eve gave the LORD [God, the Father] credit for her bearing a son. There is not one word written in the Word about Adam ever one time glorifying God.

Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Now here God spoke the same principle to Cain that is written in Eze. 18. He told Cain, if you will do well, or repent, you will be accepted. But if you fail to do well, sin lieth at the door. We find that Cain never did repent. He has murdered his brother and he never did repent. He died in his sins. No righteousness is ever mentioned for Cain.

Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

This proves that Cain died without God. 1John 3:12 -Not as CAIN, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.

Jude 1:11-Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of CAIN, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Now these are the Scriptures showing us that God mentioned or remembered the sins of Cain forever. No righteousness is ever attributed to Cain. He died in his sins. This one verse also shows us that Balaam and Core did in their sins. God has remembered their sins against them in this verse. He has mentioned them at the end. It shows there is a woe upon all who go in the way of Cain, Balaam [doing the work of God for reward; money], and Core, who coveted the things of the world and sin. So, if it is a woe to go in the way of these men, they never repented and turned to righteousness.

Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Notice here again, Eve blesses and honours God for the birth of another son. She also shows here that Abel was counted as her seed, and not the wicked Cain. She here claims the righteous Seth for a replacement of her other righteous son. So, Eve had sided with Abel in serving the true God. She was connected here with both Abel and Seth, not Cain or Adam. She mentions Cain’s sin, so she is living by the same principles God revealed in Eze. 18. Only a spiritually blind person could fail to see the connection here between the righteous sons, Abel and Seth and their mother, Eve.

2Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

2Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Now there are people in our land who distort the above verse and try to say this is teaching that some evil animal creature had sex with Eve and brought forth Cain. This is a hideous lie from the pits of hell. Not one single word of such filth is mentioned here. Look up the word ‘beguiled’. It means to lead by deception. Now where is being deceived a sin? Only when one stays in that deception is it wrong. Eve did NOT stay deceived. I have already proven this. This is merely saying that the serpent [Adam] led Eve into doing wrong by HIS subtlety. She was not subtle, He was.

1Tim 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Now this is the last time Eve is mentioned in Scripture. Not one time has sin been named to her. It is not mentioned. It teaches that she was in the transgression only by deception. This is not held against her. If so, then why did Paul add, she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness and sobriety? IF THEY CONTINUE. CONTINUE. This proves this is the state of Eve at this last mention of her name. It is stating that other women may also be saved by the same means Eve was = by being in faith, charity, HOLINESS, and sobriety. See how Paul switched to ‘they’, meaning other women? He is saying that other women may be saved the same way Eve was, by being holy. ‘They’ means more than one woman. Here it is speaking of all other women, not Eve. He is saying they may be saved the same way Eve was. God revealed this truth to me. If you look at what is truly being said here, it proves this. Only a WILLFUL disregard of Scripture Truth could cause one to not see this. God has not REMEMBERED any sin against Eve. It is not MENTIONED. She was saved. She lives eternally. Glory to God for this great truth. The MOTHER OF US ALL. Abraham is the Father of the RIGHTEOUS, not Adam.

Re 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Re 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Re 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Re 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Now there is much to learn from these verses in Revelation. We find that God told almost every one of the churches that He had a few things against them. This shows that there was sin in these churches which had not been repented of. We find here that Jezebel also died in her sins, for God is remembering her sins here and uses this woman to type the church which sins and loves the ways of Satan. This is the church of Satan or the kingdom of Adam, the seven-headed kingdom of the beast. See that God said this woman [church] calls herself a prophetess, [meaning she is into religion], and that she teaches and seduces God’s servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. These are the sins mentioned against her [the church]. This is NOT speaking of the original Jezebel. She is only used as a type of this sinning church. So, it is a church which is teaching these people of God to sin against God. Think of this; a church leading you down the road to hell fire!

You might wonder, “which church?” Any and all who partake of the idol holidays. This is the way they commit fornication against God and eat things sacrificed to idols. Remember also, that God is mentioning their sins. This is the time when He brings anyone to judgment, when he remembers or mentions their sins to them. So this church is being judged as against God. Where does that leave you, her children?

“I will kill her children with death.”

But notice, God said I gave her space to repent of her fornication. So we see that God gave everyone space to repent and turn to righteousness. He had told Cain if you do well = turn from your sins [repent] to righteousness, you will be accepted. But they repented not. So all those who do not repent, but continue on in their sins all their lives, are the children of this Jezebel Church and will end up in hell fire. This is the ‘death’ he spoke of killing her children with. It is not the first, or natural death, for all partake of this ‘death’.

You do not have to even go to church to be her children. All you must do is never repent and turn to righteousness. All you must do is observe the holidays. Everyone is either of the True Church of God, or you are of the Jezebel, whorish church. If you observe the holidays, you are committing the Jezebel fornication and eating her things sacrificed to idols. You are then guilty and have not repented. If you continue on in this sin until your death, or the time God brings you to judgment, then He will remember your sins against you and you will be lost.

We find that God mentioned only sins against the last church. So this church was of Jezebel, [Adam, Satan] and never repented of her sins. This is why God said, “Come out of her my people, that you partake not of her sins and receive of the wrath of God”.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Now we find from these verses that Babylon is also the Jezebel Churches. So Babylon also never repented of her sins. She is used here to type the whorish kingdom of Adam, the Law System of serving God. See that they are guilty of the fornication of the Jezebel church. Her main sin is that of ‘merchandizing’ the things of God. This is the people who receive pay for their ‘work’ of God. These are they who hold suppers, yard sales, and all other sorts of money-making schemes for their churches. This is the ‘merchandizing’ which Jesus commanded us not to make his Father’s house a house of merchandise. But see that all the Jezebel churches are full of merchandizing, for this buying and selling and love of money is the Mark of the Beast, Adam.

God now remembers her sins and calls her to judgment. He now MENTIONS all her sins against her. So this proves that this Jezebel, Laodician Church is unrepented and dies in her sins. The wrath of God comes against this church and all who have stayed in this church and disregarded God’s command to come out of her.

So, if you continue to stay inside a church which resorts to merchandizing, observing holidays, eating things sacrificed to idols, and all the other sins mentioned here, you will receive of her plagues and end up in hell fire. Is it worth it to you? Now you may have deceived yourself all your life and think that just because they call themselves a ‘church’ that this makes it alright for you to go there and support this evil system, but in the end, you will be called to judgment and God will mention these sins against you and send you to hell.

The last thing the Spirit says to the churches is, “Come out of her, my people”. Do you ‘hear’ this voice of the Spirit? If not, you will partake of her sins and her plagues. You will be killed with death. This is the second death in the lake of fire. Where are you headed? Do you even care? Does this fake church mean more to you than eternal life?

Again, you may wonder, which church? Give them the ‘word’ test. Do they do holidays? If so, this is idol worship. Do they eat things sacrificed to idols, such as Santa Clause, X-mess dinners and parties, Halloween candy, Easter eggs, etc? If so, this is sin punishable by eternal death. Do they indulge in selling merchandise to make money for the church? Do they pay a man to teach them the Word and rule over them? Does the singers, musicians, the ones who clean the church or cut the grass receive pay for doing this work of God? If so, then it is a Jezebel church. It matters not what they call themselves. It matters not how they baptize, if they partake of these sins, they are Jezebel, Babylon, Kingdom of Satan [his seat is in these churches] and you will be lost with them. Examine yourselves and see if you be in the true Faith. If you partake of any of the above sins, you are not in the true faith, you are in Jezebel and refused to come out of her.

When God remembers her sins and calls her to judgment to give her the rewards for her deeds, then all who are part of her will be included in this judgment and plagues. Do not think you can stay in her, partake of her sins, and escape this judgment? You are part of her, you will partake of her judgment.

Now, let’s examine some other people mentioned in Scripture, for proof of this message.

Take Esau for instance.

Mal 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,

Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Mal 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

Now this shows that God hated Esau and said he had indignation against his people for ever. Why? Because Esau never repented of his sins and turned to righteousness. If he had, God would have accepted him and never mentioned his sins against him. Yet here, his sins are remembered and held against him for ever. It was nothing particular which Esau did to provoke this hatred in God. It was the fact that Esau never humbled himself and repented. He never did turn to righteousness. He rebelled against God.

Now lets look at another man in the Word. I suppose DAVID is mentioned more times in the Word than any other name. Now we know that David at one time committed adultery and had a man killed to cover up this sin. Yet we do not find that this is ever mentioned against David or held against him. Sure, the Word tells us what happened, but you do not find it mentioned against him afterwards. Check all the NT Scriptures of David. You will not find one word about any sin mentioned against him. He is praised more than any other man. Jesus is called the son of David more than anyone else.

Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them DAVID to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found DAVID the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

We read of the sure mercies of David. We find that Jesus will raise back up the tabernacle of David. So see then, that God does not remember any sins against David. Why? He committed both adultery and murder, yet God does not mention this against him. Why? Because David greatly repented of these sins and turned his heart back to righteousness. Thus, God used this man to prove his word, that if one turns from their wickedness to righteousness, God will not remember their sins again. He will not mention them. What a glorious thing for our God to do for us. But you can only reap this benefit if you repent of your sins by turning away from them and doing righteousness. Do that which is right and good and you shall eat the good of the Land. Why will you die? Why sit you there in your sins till you die? It is not necessary. You bring it upon your own self by refusing to repent. Repentance is not just saying I am sorry, please forgive me. No! God shows that it means turning from your wickedness and turning to righteousness. This is the requirement for God to never remember your sins against you or mention them again.

Now lets look at one last witness of this. Everyone seems to think that old Israel, under law, was God’s special, chosen and loved people. But is this true? Read this:

Ac 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

Ac 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Ac 7:39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt, Ac 7:40 Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.

Ac 7:41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.

Ac 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?

Ac 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Jesus told his disciples let them alone, how can they escape the damnation of hell. Now just read the above mentioned sins against old Israel. They turned back in their hearts to Egypt [type of sin and world]. They told Aaron to make them a golden calf to worship. They committed fornication. They had the idols Molock and Remphan with them the entire time they were in the wilderness and worshipped these idols. They had many more idols we are told about.

So, see here that God has remembered their sins and mentioned them against them. So these people were not God’s true people. They fall into the category of those whom God hated and had indignation against them forever. They never turned away from their wickedness to righteousness. They never had faith in the true God. They loved and worshipped idols. This is the present day church. It is a continuation of this church in the wilderness. They are all part of Jezebel, Babylon. They are all in fornication against the true God. They are the Esau which God hates. They are ‘twin brother’ to the true church, yet God hates one and loves the other. There are two churches, one is of Satan and the other is of Jesus. Which one are you in? If you keep idol holidays, you are in the idol-worshipping Esau church. This is old law Israel. The law is not of faith.

You think because you ‘attend’ some gathering together, that you are right with God. You think you can watch the evils on TV, have your holidays parties, do your adultery, and other sins you commit, and you are still in the Church of God. It is deception which will lead you to judgment and hell fire. God will remember your sins against you at that day and mention them to your own destruction. All of this happens because you refuse to turn from your wickedness to righteousness, [means do that which is right and good].

Mark11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

So, what does it mean, forgive? It means the very same thing as when God forgives. It means you forget the sin and do not remember it against the person again. It means you do NOT mention the sin to this person again. If you continue to ‘badger’ and nag a person about something they did against you, and they have repented of this, then you did not forgive it and God will not forgive you your sins. It means you now accept this person in love again just as if they had never done the trespass against you. This is the one and only true forgiveness. If you continue to hold it against the person and quit fellowshipping them because of the thing, then you have NOT forgiven it. You must do as God does = never mention it again. Do not hold a grudge in your heart against the person. Let forgiveness cleanse your hurt feelings.

By: Jo Smith